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Danny Holroyd Mayhem Team Bike Report

Danny Holroyd- Team Race Report

Home safe and sound it's time to forget the sunburn and saddle sores to try and sum up how me and the other Smoothie team riders felt about each of the new bikes. We rode hard and tried our best to genuinely find out which was the "best". Here's my summary bike by bike, with comments and feedback from the team added in:

Carbon 456- Shimano XT: Weight 26.5 lbs (12.2 kg)
I had been looking forward to riding this bike for weeks now and first impressions were good. It didn’t have the same speed as the Whippet on the flats but when it came to climbing it didn’t disappoint. However, where the 456 comes into its own is on the single tracks and descents. This bike was built for narrow UK trails and it is so much fun to ride. It really feels like you can ride over anything. The downhills were really fun too. Point the bike where you want it to go and it will fly. I was a bit unsure about the length of the top tube and how it would affect the ride but it really helps on the descents.

Tall boy Adrian was happy to have a 20” bike to ride and pedalled a repectable 1 min 10 to fill in time between BBQ’s. In his words it “climbed brilliantly and with gravity on your side it swallowed up the ruts and roots and gives you bags of confidence”. The bike also jumps really well. Hooking it off a big banking the bike feels ultra stable in the air, really well balanced and ultra comfortable on the landings. Overall it just felt a lot more stable and more of a convincing ride than the Whippet (below) although the Whippet was more suited to the type of course we were riding.


Carbon Whippet- SRAM XO: Weight 22.5 lbs (10.2 kg) (pictured above)

My first impressions of the Whippet were very good. The bike set off really fast and responsive. The first stretch of the course was on grass which normally drags but the Whippet was really fast. Then the climbs came. Again it responded really well. On the this bike you can just crank down and pedal and it just climbs. If I’m going to be honest I felt a bit unsure about the flat/narrow bar set up but it was surprisingly agile and responsive through the single tracks. However we all felt the need to hold back on some of the descents due to the riding position and the short travel althoughh it still felt positive and the give in the rear end made the ride comfortable.  I actually put my fastest time in on the whippet but probably due to my severe unfitness in the following laps. I think I would like to try the whippet with a wider bar and slightly longer travel (100mm) and I think it would be a lot faster on the down hills. All in all for an XC machine I was very impressed with the speed and response of the bike. For a lightweight racing bike I think it’s a real winner (we're aiming to hit the magic 20 lbs weight on this bike in the future).

Ti 456- Shimano XT: Weight 25.1 lbs (11.4 kg) (pictured above)
I have never ridden a titanium bike before and was interested to see what they felt like. Although the Ti has the same geometry as the Carbon 456 it felt like a totally different bike. Riding characteristics were pretty much the same as the carbon on the flats and uphill’s but when it came to the downhills and single-track although it handled very solidly it did kick back a little more which I didn't expect. Adrian chanced his arm with a midnight lap- not a  scientific test, in the woods, in the dark, with an Owl for company - but the bike “felt good - little or no difference to the Lynskey builds - if anything the back end is a bit more resilient.  Its a more mellow ride than the grrrr go faster carbons - its a more rhythmical pedaling style…”.

Carbon 29er- Shimano XT: Weight 23.3 lbs (10.6 kg) (pictured above)
I didn’t do an official lap on the 29er partly due to my physical state (diddums- ed) and partly due to time restraints. Jamie lapped it up though, scoring a very respectable time of 58 mins (2 mins faster than he managed on the Whippet). Adrian called it “schizophrenic” at first but found it super fast down hill and also “very well balanced and noticeably better than the other bikes on the rooty sections”, turning in his fastest lap time yet with a 1 hour 5 mins. Stevo managed to break the 29er's chain twice, but unlike other leading bodge job mechanics he has unable to fix it with 2 large rocks…

Conclusions...
All the bikes are designed for a different purpose and type of riding and they all excel in what they are designed for. I have to say the Carbon 456 is my personal weapon of choice. For an all round bike it can do anything. But Ii you are after something more specific for a certain type of riding then I would definitely go for one of the other bikes.

It was pretty evident that the Whippet was the fastest bike of the weekend with a time of 54min held by ‘dark horse’ Denby the frame painter. Closely followed by the 29er of 58 minutes held by new boy Jamie Oliver. The 456 carbon and Ti were pretty closely matched with times of 1hr 3 mins.

The camp pretty much decided the Whippet was the best on the day for that track however most people agreed they wouldn’t want to ride it all day long and would steer more towards the Carbon 456 as a ‘do anything go anywhere’ bike.

Whatever bike you decide on one thing is for sure you won’t be disappointed in the performance. Carbon Whippet’s and Ti 456 along with 16 and 20 inch Carbon 456 all due for pre-order within the next month so stay poised for some more great pre-order offers. We’ll keep you updated.
Have fun on the trails,
Danny Holroyd

LAP RESULTS FOR THE SMOOTHIE TEAM RIDERS:
Time of day
Rider
Bike
Lap Time (min:sec)
14:00
Denby
Carbon 456
01:04
15:04
Danny
Carbon Whipppet
01:04
16:08
Jamie
Ti 456
00:59
17:07
Stevo
Carbon 29er01:20 (broken chain)
18:30
AdrianCarbon 45601:11
19:25
DenbyCarbon Whipppet00:54
20:30
DannyCarbon 45601:04
21:30
JamieCarbon Whipppet00:55
23:40
AdrianTi 45601:20 (in the dark)
07:00
StevoCarbon Whipppet01:00
08:00
DenbyCarbon Whipppet00:55
09:00
DannyTi 45601:11
09:30
Adrian
Carbon 29er
01:05
10:00
Mike
Carbon 45601:15
11:00
JamieCarbon 29er00:57
12:00
Stevo
Carbon 456
01:11
12:45
Adrian
Carbon Whipppet01:00
13:55
JamieCarbon 29erdid not finish

21 June 2010

Comments

  • tomj

    In the howies team we had two on-one's going round and a third as the pit bike, xander pilotted his steel slot drop 29er round a double night lap so the ret of us could get some shut eye and i managed to get my steel 456 summer season round the course in 58minutes to take the fastest team lap, pretty damn happy with that seeing as the 456 is built for skills coaching on so is no lightweight and is set up 1x9 tempted by a scandal as a lightweight race bike project :/ tom www.carbon-monkey.co.uk mountain bike guiding and skills coaching

  • SteveD

    Thought you may like to know that a 29" rigid Inbred came 6th in individual male too... 2nd solo singlespeed. My best lap was 58-minutes and loved every minute of it. Cant wait for a singlespeed version of the carbon 29-er I saw at the show now.

  • MartinF

    FYI... I managed a 55 minute lap on the Carbon 456 with Team Dud Racing in the mixed sport catagory on my last lap. Thanks for the ride a very solid bike. 1867 Martin Fisher 20 00:55:17

  • malh

    Took carbon bike for a mayhem lap: immense. On one team were top fellas, really helpful and friendly, cheers guys, bonza weekend! Mal H

  • GrahamB

    Ady - is this the result of your Thursday night 'training' You need a laddle of DOOM and a photo stop