The World's first long travel carbon hardtail, the Carbon456 builds on the legendary On-One 456 geometry with modern updated features to keep it at the forefront of classic mountain bike design.
The Carbon456 blends years of experience into an unshakeably surefooted, highly responsive carbon frame with massive tyre clearance for top performance in all conditions. It's nice and stiff with just the right amount of compliance, absolutely bomb proof and has the infallible 456 geometry which we all love so much.
As a do it all trail centre / all mountain hardtail frame the Carbon456 is hard to beat. It's light and extremely fast on climbs, yet well balanced and very easy to control on downhills and technical single track. With it's toughened carbon construction, this frame brushes off trail debris and other incidents like a bullet proof vest.
Set up as a long travel bike (up to 160mm) it normally builds into a complete bike weight of between 23 and 26lbs. And at these prices it's an absolute steal.
So let's round up the details. It weighs 1.5kg - thats about 3.3lb. It will work great with a fork ranging from 100-160mm travel. It'll take a tapered or straight steerer fork. The dropouts allow to you to run vertical dropouts for normal geared wheels, or even singlespeed or Alfine. BB shell is a normal 73mm unit. And it'll take 2.4in tyres.
There really is no comparison for a frame of this geometry, weight and strength at this price point. With other manufacturers selling high priced steel frames at twice this price point, you have to wonder why. And some people wonder how we do it? It's easy. We work with the best factories in the world to make frames the way we want them to. We price them well so we can sell a good volume, and we sell them direct to you. So we're in control of the production processes and margins. And you're getting a killer deal. What's stopping you?
Note: 16 inch frame is not compatible with certain models of tapered steerer forks (Rockshox Reba / Sector / Revelation). Please contact us if you are unsure.
|Frame Material||100% High Modulus Carbon Fibre|
|Approx. Frame Weight (g)||1500|
|Seatpost Size (mm)||31.6|
|Seat Clamp Size (mm)||34.9|
|Front Mech Clamp Size (mm)||34.9|
|Wheels||26"" x 2.5 tyres will just about fit, but we recommend 2.0" – 2.3" for best performance|
|Bottle Cage Bosses||1 set|
Mix Tapered Headset = 44mm Upper shell, 49.6 Lower shell
|Fork Travel||100 - 160mm MAX|
|Dropouts||Vertical (Horizontal available seperately)|
|Bottom Bracket shell||73mm, English threaded|
|A||Head Angle (°)||67.5||67.5||67.5||67.5|
|B||Head Tube Length (mm)||90||90||105||120|
|C||Effective Top Tube (mm)||568||600||609||622|
|D||Seat Angle (°)||71||71||71||71|
Seat Tube Length Centre to Top (mm)
|F||Chainstay Length (mm)||425||425||425||425|
|G||Standover Height (mm)||660||716||747||775|
Geometry based on fully extended 120mm fork
|Rider Height||Inside Leg||Suggested Frame Size||Stem Length|
|5'2" to 5'7" (157-170cm)||<29" (<74cm)||14” (XS)||40-60mm|
|5′6" to 5′10" (167-178cm)||28"-31" (71-79cm)||16” (S)||40-60mm|
|5′9" to 6′1" (175-185cm)||30"-34" (76-86cm)||18” (M)||40-60mm|
|6' to 6′4"||33"-37" (84-94cm)||20” (L)||40-80mm|
All frame size recommendations are approximate. A good fit will also depend on the correct choice of stem length, correct bike set-up for the rider and riding style.
Correct frame size choice can also depend on a rider’s torso and limb length.
Hi Robert, yes, the bolts come with blue Locktite, no need to grease the frame.
another stupid question, i'm new to swapouts so can you tell me....do the bolts come pre threadlocked? and should i lightly grease the swapout against the frame? many thanks and sorry for the stupid questions LOL!
Hey CompagnoniM, he should take the 16 inch size.
Yes, still due at the end of this week.
Hi, I've pre ordered an 18" frame, are they still due in next week? Can't wait to get her!!
Hi on-one , my brother want to buy your 456 carbon frame but to be sure to choose the exact frame size I ask to you . He is 171cm and 78 inside leg . Thank you
Cheers Thomas, I've ordered the 16" frame and fork bundle and will build it up with my Alfine 8
Hi David, it depends what sort of riding you like to do. If it's a 1-2 hour blast and you like you like to ride tight and twisty stuff you might be okay with a 16". If you prefer epic all day riding with lots of climbing you might be better off with an 18". We should have them back in stock towards the end of July.
Hi Voland, do your forks have a standard 1 1/8" steerer or a tapered 1 1/8" to 1.5" steerer? Either way you'll need our Smoothie Mixer headset, but you may also need an additional crown race if your forks have a tapered 1 1/8" to 1.5" steerer. Shipping to Australia usually takes about 7-10 days.
Hi there, I am planning to order a 18" Carbon 456 frame. Just wondering whether I will need a different headset in order to fit my Suntour fork. I can see that you do ship to Australia. How long does it normally take until I can get the frame? Thanks!
I was going to buy a 18" 456 SS but think I now would prefer a 456 Carbon. I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam. I would be running a 90mm stem and 400mm seat post. Would a 16" be too small? I see you only have 16" in plain black, when are you expecting the 18" back into stock? I have a set of 120mm Reba Dual Air Forks (unopened). Would the 150mm revelations be better suited? Cheers D
Hi Markus, honest answer is that you need a 14". We do plan to do the Carbon 456 in 14" but not quite yet. Sorry! Can you stretch to a Ti 456 price wise?
Hi! since you guys are not making the size 14 carbon 456.. i'm only 5'4 ht with 28-29 inseam ... is it still possible for me to get the size 16 frame? I really want to try this frame. Thanks for the reply if any . =)
Both will work but for my money I'd go for the 771 (in fact, I did!)
Will a Shimamo FD-M770 fit this frame or is the 771 the way to go?
I'm only 5'4 with no shoes. i'm wondering if i can use a size 16 frame carbon with 140mm travel up front? By the way i'm an aggressive trail rider and doing some jumps in street but not too much.
Not really. It's BB73 (standard external BB fitting). Whilst it's possible to run standard cranks on a BB30 frame (with an adapter) I don't believe you can run BB30 cranks on a standard frame.
Hi, is this frame BB30 compatible? Cheers!
Hi Edgar, you're right to be concerned, it wouldn't work for that very reason.
Hi Steve, no that'd be fine.
Is it possible to use a quick release seat clamp with these frames or is that just crazy talk?
HI Guys, got another question, I want to run a Cane Creek Angle Set with a tapered fork. I found this spec, but would it work? AngleSet EC44 | EC49 I know the bottom part will work, since that it the same spec as the Smoothie headset made by you guys. I'm just worried about the top since the Angleset would be a External Cup and the Smoothie (and Hope) headsets are Zero Stack (ZS).. Thanks a million
Sorry James, we've no plans to put a 14" Carbon 456 into production any time soon.
Hi Emil, you'll need one spacer on the drive side only.
I'm about to start my build and was wondering how to put the spacers for the BB for optimum chainline and shifting performance. I've got the Shimano XT crankset with Hollowtech II.
hi guys, when will the new dropouts be available? and which one will it be?? 12*135MM or 12*142MM thanks
Hi, please could you let me know if and when you will be stocking a 14" carbon 456 frame. Please also confirm price. Thanks James
Hi Chris, the geometry listed above is for a 120mm fork fully extended, which is roughly the equivalent of a 140mm fork sagged. More at http://www.on-one.co.uk/help/456-fork-travel/q/preview-true/
Hi Eyal, we don't have any raw frames left. We do have some 'paint seconds' that we can do at a discounted price, you could then sand the lacquer off. Feel free to email email@example.com for more info.
Hi, Can I order a nun glossy black or an all black frame without decals. Can you confim that M size have a 105 HT (not like the 456SS). What is the BB height with 120 fork and 150 fork. Thanks
hi looking to get new frame and fancy one of these, can i check what would be the geometery with a 140mm fork? also do you have a 18inch demo bike at the shop?. thanks
Thanks for that, do you have an eta on the dropouts?
Hi Mark, yes to the rear drop-outs, they're currently in the pipeline, no to the ISCG- not a good idea on a carbon frame and one best reserved for Ti and cro-mo.
Hi guys, do you have any plans for through axel dropouts and ISCG mounts for this frame?
Hi Mike, it will work but as the Carbon 456 is designed to take a long travel fork you'd get better handling using the 29er version of the rigid carbon fork, funnily enough.
Hey Robin. They will fit, but you will need to use the B2 type swap-out here: http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FSOOSWAP/on-one-swapout-replaceable-dropout
Hi! Will the On-One 26er rigid carbon fork work with this frame?
Hey, i come from Germany, so sorry for my bad english. I got a question,I'm really intrested in this frame, does a four piston break will fit? I Wanted to use Shimano Saints with 180mm rotors. Thanks
Hey Pål. 203mm rear rotor will fit but you will probably need the B2 non drive side swapout, available here: http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FSOOSWAP/on-one-swapout-replaceable-dropout
Hi Colin. We recommend 8Nm for the swapouts. Bit less for the seatclamp, say, 6Nm.
TO DH So you reckon he Ti frame 456 sort of disconnects you from the trail surface. Think the carbon will suit me better. Cheers for comments
Hi All, I am building up my Carbon 456--wondering how tight I should torque the swapout bolts on the rear of the frame. I am also wondering how much torque the seatclamp area can take (although there is an aluminum seapost providing resistance as well as the carbon frame). Many Thanks!
Hi. Does a 203 mm disc rotor fit this frame in the rear?
Hi Graeme. I ride a Carbon 456 out of choice and absolutely love it. It's sharp and fast but not too XC, though I do run it with a 6 deg drop stem and no headset spacers with 140mm Revelations. Have ridden the Ti, and it is great- especially if you like a silky smooth ride. But I really love how in touch with the trail the Carbon makes you feel. It's amazing.
Thanks for the Reply Jon, An order will be coming over today for the stick n mix bundle......well excited
Hi Graeme, personally I'd go for the Carbon 456. It's nice and light for XC and the marathon racing, yet it can take one hell of a beating at the trail centre when you wanna get a bit "gnar"!
Hi Guys/Girls and this goes ou to all in the On-One office. Cant decide between Carbon 456 or ti 456. Any tips hints. I'm 6'2 weight about 15 stone. Ride mainly XC although if I visit a trail centre I like to push myself a bit. Try to do jumps but not great at it!! Planning to do some distance events this year CRC marathon ansd riding Glasgow to Aviemmore. Your tips & advice. I realise you might not ne able to answer this in a single response :-) Thanks in advance. Graeme
Hi Rob, I'd say yes to everything apart from the 100mm stem, which may be a little long (unless you're riding a 20"). For my money, the Carbon 456 is unbeatable.
Hi Scott- no problem at all for use with standard 1 1/8in steerer Reba's. The Smoothie mixer headset will fit your standard forks too, or tapered forks if you buy the additional 1.5in crown race. So, fill your boots!
Hi, just about to buy one of the carbon 456 frames, just need to check will they work ok with rockshox reba's with the standard 1 1/8th steerer, the description states not compatable with reba's with a tapered headset. Also does the smoothies mixer headset in the bundle fit my forks ok. Cheers